Comments on: Arm Gets Closer To Creating Full-Blown Server CPU Designs https://www.nextplatform.com/2023/08/31/arm-gets-closer-to-creating-full-blown-server-cpu-designs/ In-depth coverage of high-end computing at large enterprises, supercomputing centers, hyperscale data centers, and public clouds. Wed, 13 Sep 2023 15:05:02 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: Slim Albert https://www.nextplatform.com/2023/08/31/arm-gets-closer-to-creating-full-blown-server-cpu-designs/#comment-213084 Sat, 02 Sep 2023 19:53:38 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=142842#comment-213084 In reply to thadec.

These RISC-V folks are doing great design work for performance! With data center as a target, they should really publish results of SPECjvm and/or SPECjbb — SPECint2017 is not quite representative of those workloads …

]]> By: Timothy Prickett Morgan https://www.nextplatform.com/2023/08/31/arm-gets-closer-to-creating-full-blown-server-cpu-designs/#comment-213077 Sat, 02 Sep 2023 13:35:09 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=142842#comment-213077 In reply to thadec.

I’ll get to my coverage on these. But I love Patrick, as he well knows.

]]> By: thadec https://www.nextplatform.com/2023/08/31/arm-gets-closer-to-creating-full-blown-server-cpu-designs/#comment-213055 Sat, 02 Sep 2023 02:46:53 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=142842#comment-213055 I have 2 rejoinders.

1. Sierra Forest: https://www.servethehome.com/intel-xeon-e-cores-for-next-gen-sierra-forest-and-more-at-hot-chips-2023/
2. SiFive (and friends):https://www.servethehome.com/ventana-veyron-v1-risc-v-data-center-processor-hot-chips-2023/ plus https://www.servethehome.com/sifive-p870-risc-v-processor-at-hot-chips-2023/

Homegrown stuff like Graviton will continue obviously and then there is Nvidia’s Grace Hopper. But Ampere pulling stuff like this https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ampere-Computing-Steam-Play makes me very skeptical about it reaching the 25% thing.

]]> By: Timothy Prickett Morgan https://www.nextplatform.com/2023/08/31/arm-gets-closer-to-creating-full-blown-server-cpu-designs/#comment-213016 Fri, 01 Sep 2023 13:10:26 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=142842#comment-213016 In reply to Eric Olson.

Well said, and good points.

]]> By: Eric Olson https://www.nextplatform.com/2023/08/31/arm-gets-closer-to-creating-full-blown-server-cpu-designs/#comment-212998 Fri, 01 Sep 2023 04:06:30 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=142842#comment-212998 Given the lawsuit with Qualcomm and Nuvia, it seems plausible ARM wants those architectural licenses to go away. Could CSS be more profitable because one can customize the same product multiple times, sort of like PeopleSoft does with Oracle?

At this point the quality of LLVM and the GCC open-source compilers along with the fact that almost no application software is written in assembler means that “starting with a custom ISA” is actually not a massive porting job. How quickly RISC-V had a full Linux distribution–not to mention Loongson–are two examples. Even back in 1995 Linux ported quickly to the DEC Alpha and Sun SPARC.

The difference today is that Linux has become the industry standard for AI, high-performance computing, cloud and on-premise data center. Thus, a new computing architecture is immediately practical once Linux runs.

]]> By: Timothy Prickett Morgan https://www.nextplatform.com/2023/08/31/arm-gets-closer-to-creating-full-blown-server-cpu-designs/#comment-212984 Thu, 31 Aug 2023 22:03:12 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=142842#comment-212984 In reply to HuMo.

Exactly!

]]> By: HuMo https://www.nextplatform.com/2023/08/31/arm-gets-closer-to-creating-full-blown-server-cpu-designs/#comment-212981 Thu, 31 Aug 2023 20:51:12 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=142842#comment-212981 Even with a brain like that of Albert Franklin (a penny saved is a time earned), or Benjamin Einstein (matter gone wild energizes money, and house-keys hooked-up to kite-strings), it will be hard to differentiate between Cascading-Style-Sheets, Cross-Site-Scripting, Complémentaire-Santé-Solidaire, and this latest CSS offering from ARM. Could NCS (Neoverse-Compute-Subsystems), or even ACCS (ARM Complete Compute Subsystem), have been a better acronym?

CHARM could be a Complete Hyperscale environment for ARM (as it also involves bring-up and driver software).

HICUPS would be the Holistic Integration of Computationally Unified Parts and Subsystems (digestively yours).

This mARMite of possibilities is Genesis for virtually endless verses of tech neologisms (neoverses?)!

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