Comments on: AMD Turns The Screws With “Turin” Server CPUs https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/10/10/amd-turns-the-screws-with-turin-server-cpus/ In-depth coverage of high-end computing at large enterprises, supercomputing centers, hyperscale data centers, and public clouds. Thu, 17 Oct 2024 20:23:55 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: Uso https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/10/10/amd-turns-the-screws-with-turin-server-cpus/#comment-237392 Sat, 12 Oct 2024 21:22:56 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=144802#comment-237392 Turin dense core is on N3. But Turin classic is on N4.

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By: spuwho https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/10/10/amd-turns-the-screws-with-turin-server-cpus/#comment-237343 Sat, 12 Oct 2024 01:23:21 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=144802#comment-237343 Unfortunately the 128 core Zen4 Epyc “Large” never saw the light because some other company bought out the rest of TSMC 5nm capacity. So hopefully this Zen 5 Epyc will have not only better luck with their 128 core version to start, but with 3nm perhaps we will see a new “Large” model with 256 cores and 16 CCX’s.

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By: Shantanu https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/10/10/amd-turns-the-screws-with-turin-server-cpus/#comment-237295 Fri, 11 Oct 2024 06:57:41 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=144802#comment-237295 “With the Turin chips, AMD is etching the cores in 3 nanometer processes from TSMC and the I/O and memory die in 4 nanometer processes, which is a sizable shrink from the 5 nanometer processes used for the Genoa cores and the 6 nanometer processes used for the Genoa I/O and memory die.”

This is incorrect. The Zen 5 based cores are on 4nm, only the Zen 5c based cores are on 3nm. And the IO die is the same for both and stil on 6nm.

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By: Slim Albert https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/10/10/amd-turns-the-screws-with-turin-server-cpus/#comment-237268 Thu, 10 Oct 2024 23:52:16 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=144802#comment-237268 Great analysis! These EPYC Zen Torinos do put a new stake in the ground in terms of bang-for-the-buck price/performance value proposition. If relative pricing had stayed at the Rome-Milan-Genoa level (say $250 / Rel Perf), then the story wouldn’t be as compelling, with a 3.5X price/performance improvement to Intel’s 2.6X — but Turin really pushes that envelope to a ground breaking 6.25X, for what is now a most impressive 15-year run (a much moved needle!).

It’s impressive also how they increased base clock from Milan to Genoa (say 2.4 GHz to 3.1 GHz in 64C) and then increased boost clock from Genoa to Turin (eg. 3.7 GHz to 5.0 GHz). Frontier’s CPUs are of the Milan 7713 64C 3rd gen running at 2.0 GHz, and I can only imagine how much improved it could be with Turins instead, and matching GPUs (faster, more power-efficient, less expensive).

Next up should be MRDIMM, PCIe 6.0, and CXL 3.0!

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By: Timothy Prickett Morgan https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/10/10/amd-turns-the-screws-with-turin-server-cpus/#comment-237265 Thu, 10 Oct 2024 23:23:12 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=144802#comment-237265 In reply to emerth.

No, that’s where I started! But I went for the rhymes instead.

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By: emerth https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/10/10/amd-turns-the-screws-with-turin-server-cpus/#comment-237257 Thu, 10 Oct 2024 21:02:06 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=144802#comment-237257 Timothy, you missed such an opportunity: “AMD TURINS THE SCREWS…”

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