Comments on: Flash To Kill Disk In The Datacenter – And This Time, For Good https://www.nextplatform.com/2023/03/02/flash-to-kill-disk-in-the-datacenter-and-this-time-for-good/ In-depth coverage of high-end computing at large enterprises, supercomputing centers, hyperscale data centers, and public clouds. Fri, 10 Mar 2023 19:09:42 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: Katrina https://www.nextplatform.com/2023/03/02/flash-to-kill-disk-in-the-datacenter-and-this-time-for-good/#comment-205565 Tue, 07 Mar 2023 11:01:44 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=141971#comment-205565 In reply to Timothy Prickett Morgan.

That is the sort of money you pay for WD Red Plus or similar. It is not full-on enterprise grade, but it is designed for use in servers. There will be use cases where it is good enough. It has far better performance than tape, and it still gets used a lot in the enterprise.

]]> By: Frank https://www.nextplatform.com/2023/03/02/flash-to-kill-disk-in-the-datacenter-and-this-time-for-good/#comment-205531 Mon, 06 Mar 2023 03:44:36 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=141971#comment-205531 ‘“Reducing the world’s datacenter power, space, and e-waste by 20 percent…’ Mr. Morgan, do you realize that flash wears out faster than HDDs? Maybe you think that SSDs are smaller so they will not produce as much e-waste for the same amount of TB of storage in flash form? But that viewpoint neglects that SSDs cannot be recycled (at least with any ease), whereas HDDs have ball bearings, motors, metal disks, metal arms, and enclosures that can be recycled rather easily (a HDD is just screwed together).

]]> By: Michael Alan Bruzzone https://www.nextplatform.com/2023/03/02/flash-to-kill-disk-in-the-datacenter-and-this-time-for-good/#comment-205458 Fri, 03 Mar 2023 17:58:21 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=141971#comment-205458 The industrial political clock at Flash Memory Summit has been clicking on the demise of rotating media for nearly two decades, the volume eclipse of HDD technology by Flash devices of all types and last year that moment arrived in the consumer products market for sure.

Commercially and expressly in consumer compute, nothing compares with the cost performance of NAND Flash.

I will add however observing this phenomenon boiling up from the bottom and broadening across memories mid-tier that flash transforms a balanced compute system into an appliance, and perhaps, commercial compute is increasingly about application specific work in time. My go to PC appliance example is an enthusiast gaming system. It resembles computare but is it, what about balance?

I will then add for my application which is simply office, analytics and database while I have mid-tier flash, as a data base system the endurance and archival capacity of this trusted platform, a balanced general computing device, would fall into question lacking the foundation of its multiple physical enterprise class disk drives.

If the consumer SSD market can be relied as an example, especially the throw away laptop market, how soon will it take the prophets of disposable tech aiming for performance in every next sale to convince the masses that reliability and trust in the longevity of a solid state recording device no longer matter. Which enters solid state memory?

Mike Bruzzone, Camp Marketing

]]> By: Timothy Prickett Morgan https://www.nextplatform.com/2023/03/02/flash-to-kill-disk-in-the-datacenter-and-this-time-for-good/#comment-205453 Fri, 03 Mar 2023 14:04:48 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=141971#comment-205453 In reply to Eric Olson.

Well, you can’t just look at the cost of the drive, but the cost of a full-on, enterprise-grade SAN or NAS that can scale and do file or object.

But I see your point. The underlying drive is pretty cheap.

]]> By: Timothy Prickett Morgan https://www.nextplatform.com/2023/03/02/flash-to-kill-disk-in-the-datacenter-and-this-time-for-good/#comment-205452 Fri, 03 Mar 2023 13:39:55 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=141971#comment-205452 In reply to Eric Olson.

You WIN!

Love it.

]]> By: Eric Olson https://www.nextplatform.com/2023/03/02/flash-to-kill-disk-in-the-datacenter-and-this-time-for-good/#comment-205444 Fri, 03 Mar 2023 04:45:51 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=141971#comment-205444 Being curious, I checked and found that a 12TB spinning drive currently costs $200 or 1.7 cents/GB. While that’s a factor 10 cheaper than the the flash being discussed, the real question is what’s the cost-per-GB comparison with EMP-resistant punch cards.

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