Comments on: How The “Antares” MI300 GPU Ramp Will Save AMD’s Datacenter Business https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/01/31/how-the-antares-mi300-gpu-ramp-will-save-amds-datacenter-business/ In-depth coverage of high-end computing at large enterprises, supercomputing centers, hyperscale data centers, and public clouds. Tue, 13 Feb 2024 17:17:45 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: Timothy Prickett Morgan https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/01/31/how-the-antares-mi300-gpu-ramp-will-save-amds-datacenter-business/#comment-219803 Tue, 06 Feb 2024 14:12:05 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=143570#comment-219803 In reply to EC.

Given how this is a lot of HPC usage, you are right that shipped is not the same as revenue recognition. I was looking at how much could ship and what is the revenue on the invoice for that shipment. Things could slip a quarter or two if there are HPC-style acceptances. I think the hyperscaler and cloud builders are probably prepaying for their GPUs, and that should pull some revenue forward in a wash.

I dunno. It’s all conjecture. The point is AMD said $2 billion, raised to $3.5 billion, and many of us think (independently) that it is $5 billion.

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By: Timothy Prickett Morgan https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/01/31/how-the-antares-mi300-gpu-ramp-will-save-amds-datacenter-business/#comment-219769 Mon, 05 Feb 2024 19:17:07 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=143570#comment-219769 In reply to emerth.

You’re welcome.

Think of how many plays in a football game are held up by one ankle grab?

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By: emerth https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/01/31/how-the-antares-mi300-gpu-ramp-will-save-amds-datacenter-business/#comment-219766 Mon, 05 Feb 2024 17:46:08 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=143570#comment-219766 “AMD definitely has Nvidia by the ankle, and it is chomping.”

That is a hilarious line. Great start to the morning.

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By: Timothy Prickett Morgan https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/01/31/how-the-antares-mi300-gpu-ramp-will-save-amds-datacenter-business/#comment-219619 Thu, 01 Feb 2024 13:28:40 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=143570#comment-219619 In reply to peter j connell.

Exactly.

But I wouldn’t count Nvidia out just yet.

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By: peter j connell https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/01/31/how-the-antares-mi300-gpu-ramp-will-save-amds-datacenter-business/#comment-219614 Thu, 01 Feb 2024 10:22:09 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=143570#comment-219614 Nvidia’s hardware roadmap is very constrained by its essentially monolithic architecture.

We have seen how this pans out in the DC CPU market – Intel has been swamped by rapidly evolving Epyc.

As the adage goes, DC clients buy roadmaps, not chips. They may be meh about MI300, but feel MI500 will far out compete its contemporary from a monolithic constrained Nvidia.

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By: Timothy Prickett Morgan https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/01/31/how-the-antares-mi300-gpu-ramp-will-save-amds-datacenter-business/#comment-219593 Wed, 31 Jan 2024 21:28:25 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=143570#comment-219593 In reply to DambigU.

Well, I meant what I said. The CPUs are in recession. So the GPUs are going to fill in the gap and then some going forward, and very likely offer higher profits at some point, too.

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By: DambigU https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/01/31/how-the-antares-mi300-gpu-ramp-will-save-amds-datacenter-business/#comment-219592 Wed, 31 Jan 2024 21:13:12 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=143570#comment-219592 “How The “Antares” MI300 GPU Ramp Will Save AMD’s Datacenter Business”

Did you mean Datacenter Accelerator(Compute/AI/Whatever) business as Epyc CPUs appear to be not an issue there. And really MI300 comes in the MI300A variant that’s a Data Center APU/Exascale APU(CPU cores and GPU “Cores” on the Module) and the MI300X that’s all GPU instead on the module.

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By: Timothy Prickett Morgan https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/01/31/how-the-antares-mi300-gpu-ramp-will-save-amds-datacenter-business/#comment-219590 Wed, 31 Jan 2024 21:02:48 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=143570#comment-219590 In reply to Bill Lee.

I think the GPU portion was more like $275 million, as I explained in the comment to EC.

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By: Timothy Prickett Morgan https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/01/31/how-the-antares-mi300-gpu-ramp-will-save-amds-datacenter-business/#comment-219589 Wed, 31 Jan 2024 21:02:14 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=143570#comment-219589 In reply to Bill Lee.

That’s just the GPUs–no networking, no servers, no cables, no systems software, no support. Just the GPUs.

And if Nvidia sells even more high end GPUs and generates even more revenues, it only proves my point further. AMD is not going to make a huge dent in Nvidia, but it will build a very nice business for itself. Perhaps faster than anyone expects.

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By: Timothy Prickett Morgan https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/01/31/how-the-antares-mi300-gpu-ramp-will-save-amds-datacenter-business/#comment-219588 Wed, 31 Jan 2024 21:00:03 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=143570#comment-219588 In reply to EC.

The Q4 2023 number is pretty solid. They guided to $400 million back in October, and they said they beat that, and I think it was due to higher yields being matched to higher interest. Most of that is El Capitan. The machine costs $500 million, with probably $100 million in non-recurring engineering costs. Another $50 million or so for storage. Another $25 million for networking. We’re down to $325 for the compute, most of which (but not all) is GPU. We don’t know how many GPUs El Capitan has. My guess is it will be 2.3 exaflops peak, but my guess back in November was for 23,500 MI300A engines. Call it $276.25 million for the GPUs, at a stunningly small $11,755 per GPU. That leaves $138.8 million in MI300 GPUs to come up with. Oh, that would be only 4,625 GPUs at a cost of $30,000 a pop.

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